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Old 19-08-2006, 05:40 PM
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Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

Warning Against Revealing Your Identity and/or Personal Information To Forum Members

Recently in Sam's forum, a member's personal info was posted by another member in the midst of a cyber dispute. Another member whereabout in Hatyai was also being revealed, leading to phone calls being made to the victim's hotel room to harass him.

In view of these incidents, there are 3 advice from Sam, which I think is important and applicable to all other forums:

* Keep your identity secret.
* Do not divulge personal information eg phone numbers & addresses.
* If you do arrange meetings through this site, do NOT reveal your sammyboy nick

Here are a few tips on how to guard your identity and personal info when seeking assistance on Hatyai:

Correspondence With Acquaintances From The Forum

1. Never ever reveal your identity or any other personal information in your correspondence with acquaintances from the forum.
2. Try to correspond via email. Use your free email account which does not have your real name on it. If you don't have, create one. Avoid using your company's email.
3. If you need to correspond via the forum, you may use your original nick provided you are not going to meet that person later. If you intend to meet him, then it is wise to use a new nick instead. Remember to use that new nick when posting any feedback or report later after the trip, so that you will still remain anonymous with your original nick. Whichever nick you are using, again do not reveal your identity or other personal information.

Meeting With Forum Members

4. Do not fill in any application forms given by forum members where you will reveal your identity, as well as your personal information.
5. Introduce yourself as John, Sam, Mike, or whatever common western names that you can think of, but never your real name. Surnames like Tan, Lim, Lee, etc are alright as they are common enough.
6. Your personal documents like passport, identification card etc should always remain with you and never be handed over to the forum member you met in Hatyai. For hotel check-in or buying of air ticket, please make sure that the no one is not around when you provide the necessary personal info requested. In addition to personal documents, you should ensure that all other documents which contains your real identity or personal info (eg email confirmation letter from airlines or hotels) should not be seen by the forum member that you met there.
7. If you are using your new nick to correspond with any person in Hatyai, remember to use that same nick when you met that person, and not your original nick.
8. Always remain vague and avoid answering questions about your personal life (like your job, your company etc). Talk about anything under the sun except about yourself.
9. If any samster were to pressure you into revealing your identity, then you better stay away from him. For sure he is up to no good in wanting to find out who you are. It is better for you not to know this person, even if you have to roam Hatyai by yourself.
10. Never give your handphone number out to the forum member that you meet in hatyai. Avoid using your handphone for correspondence. Used a local prepaid SIM card instead. If not, then always make use of the hotel phone at the reception, which is free for local calls.
11. Beware of joining or investing in any businesses proposed by the forum member in Hatyai. In such dealings, beside giving out your money, you will also need to divulge your personal details. Beside losing your money, you will also have to deal with your personal info being used against you should relationship turn sour.

Note

There are many forum members who have met with each other without any problems, and some have even become close friends. However, there are a few incidents where revealing one's indentity has become a liability for some. The most serious incident is the recent one in Hatyai. Therefore this is to serve as a general warning to all forum members. It is up to the individual to decide whether he can trust the stranger he knows through the forum, and be comfortable enough to reveal his identity and personal info to him. For newbies, it is advisable to very cautious of the people you meet from the forum, and take all the necessary precaution to protect themselves.

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Old 19-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

The points you listed are mostly common sense. Treat all cyber-friends as strangers, never be lure into a sense of familiarity just because of contact in cyberspace. Live and Learn.
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Old 19-08-2006, 05:54 PM
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Oh no i have coconut head very easy to recognize....
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

thanks for the advice.
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Old 20-08-2006, 03:27 PM
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

Smart move nanog69!!! To post here instead of international forum if not your post will be "spring clean" and newbies can't read them and guard against these hypocritical samsters.
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

1) Why go through such hassles of protection?
2) Just don't meet up
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Old 20-08-2006, 03:50 PM
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

Correct save the trouble. BTW which lowlife zap me no balls put name? I going moderation soon for speaking my mind cannot zap you back dun have to be an ostrich hide your head. Got balls to zap leave your nick.
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

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Smart move nanog69!!! To post here instead of international forum if not your post will be "spring clean" and newbies can't read them and guard against these hypocritical samsters.
The purpose of posting the whole content here is to alert newbies on this. Currently he is preying on the newbies, as experienced samsters are now more alert to what he is doing. Thats why nowadays, he is only keen to bring newbies to visit KTV farms as it is easier to make money from them.

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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

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To post here instead of international forum if not your post will be "spring clean"
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Re: Protecting Your Identity And Personal Info

I have added another point about the danger of falling into the scammer's trap of applying for any discount card or any promotional gimmick that he is promoting in his newly revamped Hatyai website. The additional warning is in red

Warning Against Revealing Your Identity and/or Personal Information To Forum Members

Recently in Sam's forum, a member's personal info was posted by another member in the midst of a cyber dispute. Another member whereabout in Hatyai was also being revealed, leading to phone calls being made to the victim's hotel room to harass him.

In view of these incidents, there are 3 advice from Sam, which I think is important and applicable to all other forums:

* Keep your identity secret.
* Do not divulge personal information eg phone numbers & addresses.
* If you do arrange meetings through this site, do NOT reveal your sammyboy nick

Here are a few tips on how to guard your identity and personal info when seeking assistance on Hatyai:

Correspondence With Acquaintances From The Forum

1. Never ever reveal your identity or any other personal information in your correspondence with acquaintances from the forum.
2. Try to correspond via email. Use your free email account which does not have your real name on it. If you don't have, create one. Avoid using your company's email.
3. If you need to correspond via the forum, you may use your original nick provided you are not going to meet that person later. If you intend to meet him, then it is wise to use a new nick instead. Remember to use that new nick when posting any feedback or report later after the trip, so that you will still remain anonymous with your original nick. Whichever nick you are using, again do not reveal your identity or other personal information.

Meeting With Forum Members

4. Do not fill in any application forms given by forum members where you will reveal your identity, as well as your personal information.
5. Introduce yourself as John, Sam, Mike, or whatever common western names that you can think of, but never your real name. Surnames like Tan, Lim, Lee, etc are alright as they are common enough.
6. Your personal documents like passport, identification card etc should always remain with you and never be handed over to the forum member you met in Hatyai. For hotel check-in or buying of air ticket, please make sure that the no one is not around when you provide the necessary personal info requested. In addition to personal documents, you should ensure that all other documents which contains your real identity or personal info (eg email confirmation letter from airlines or hotels) should not be seen by the forum member that you met there.
7. If you are using your new nick to correspond with any person in Hatyai, remember to use that same nick when you met that person, and not your original nick.
8. Always remain vague and avoid answering questions about your personal life (like your job, your company etc). Talk about anything under the sun except about yourself.
9. If any samster were to pressure you into revealing your identity, then you better stay away from him. For sure he is up to no good in wanting to find out who you are. It is better for you not to know this person, even if you have to roam Hatyai by yourself.
10. Never give your handphone number out to the forum member that you meet in hatyai. Avoid using your handphone for correspondence. Used a local prepaid SIM card instead. If not, then always make use of the hotel phone at the reception, which is free for local calls.

Discount Card Offer And Other Tactics to Get Your Personal Info

11. Should you come across any invitation to apply for discount card or any other promotional gimmick for use in Hatyai, do be wary if you are required to reveal your personal details. It may ask for your identity and address with the excuse that the discount card needs your real name to be imprinted onto it, and will be mailed to your address. If that is made compulsory, then be wary as your personal information may be sold to marketing companies, or being used for undesirable activities. Worse, your name and address may be revealed in the forum, as it has happen to a samster in the Hatyai thread.

12. Beware of joining or investing in any businesses proposed by the forum member in Hatyai. In such dealings, beside giving out your money, you will also need to divulge your personal details. Beside losing your money, you will also have to deal with your personal info being used against you should relationship turn sour.


Note

There are many forum members who have met with each other without any problems, and some have even become close friends. However, there are a few incidents where revealing one's indentity has become a liability for some. The most serious incident is the recent one in Hatyai. Therefore this is to serve as a general warning to all forum members. It is up to the individual to decide whether he can trust the stranger he knows through the forum, and be comfortable enough to reveal his identity and personal info to him. For newbies, it is advisable to very cautious of the people you meet from the forum, and take all the necessary precaution to protect themselves.


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Old 20-08-2006, 04:09 PM
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The purpose of posting the whole content here is to alert newbies on this. Currently he is preying on the newbies, as experienced samsters are now more alert to what he is doing. Thats why nowadays, he is only keen to bring newbies to visit KTV farms as it is easier to make money from them.

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Chinese saying: "Paper cannot wrap fire for long". The truth will come to light sooner or later.

Western saying: "He can fool some of the samsters all of the time and all of the samsters some of the time but he can never fool ALL of the samsters ALL of the time." His game is up, he will have to get his contacts off other forums soon.
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His game is up, he will have to get his contacts off other forums soon.
He is now doing that in ISG, WSG and Mamak forums. His major customer base is still here, but current business is poor. So do expect another "investment" scam coming up after all the money he recently collected have been used up.

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He is now doing that in ISG, WSG and Mamak forums. His major customer base is still here, but current business is poor. So do expect another "investment" scam coming up after all the money he recently collected have been used up.

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I believe those that come out public is only the tip of the iceberg. Frr some reasons or other many chose to keep quiet. There is no shame being conned, the main thing is to learn the lesson and caution other from the same fate. As long as more come forward he will be expose. High rep points, cronies network and now mod status all make him up to have an cloak of 'respectability". I must admit he is not your average conman but Evil never triumph over Good. We must ensure more newbies wont fall into his trap.
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I believe those that come out public is only the tip of the iceberg. Frr some reasons or other many chose to keep quiet. There is no shame being conned, the main thing is to learn the lesson and caution other from the same fate.
They chose to keep quiet because he knows their identity and has their personal data as well. Furthermore he knows all about their sexual romp. He will not hesitate to use it against anyone who dare to expose him. That is why Sam's advice against meeting up with samsters known through the forum is sacrosanct.

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